Great to hear things are going well. Your call but that down hill session you mentioned sounds risky. I would do something like that before a minor race rather than something as important as the Boston Marathon.
Thanks Jon. I understand what you said and it is "risky" but I remember training pretty hard for the Hilo Hawaiian Marathon, which is basically down hill for the first half and it absolutely trashed my quads. I didn't do any specific downhill training for that and I couldn't even muster a short sprint to get sub 3hrs. think I got 3hrs 3 seconds there. Don't want to slow down too much going down the hills in Boston because I'm worried about saving my quads. I want to race there. I think I will do that session at least two weeks out, so I've got time to get over it,and I have been running fast downhills almost everyday so I reckon by the time I run that session I should be strong enough to handle it. I just remembered that it was a session of 1K fast downhills that started my glute problems a few years ago. I remember doing them on a very cold winters day so I'd better wait until a warmer one before trying them. Shit, really not easy getting it right! Mike Trees has a saying that there are only two kinds of runners those that are injured and those who are going to be! That pretty much sums up this running game. You throw the dice every time you try to get better!
Hi Scott. Man you are humming at the moment. Keep it up. Not sure if you visit Sage Canadays VO2maxProductions YouTube channel already but I find a lot of useful stuff there. Couldn't see anything specific about downhill prep work though. He seems to be a big supporter of the 15k block at MP completed during the second half of your long run or close to. I agree with you, mileage is king and there is no substitute. I'm a long way from 160k/week though. Not sure if I'm overly cautious or just plain lazy. Two long runs a week (Lydiard), a trail run, recovery and one speed 1/2 marathon paced effort works for me or will once I put this together for my next assault.
Good to hear you're going well Scott. Re Jon's comment - I think you'll be fine 2 weeks out (run a few undulating courses before then) - but don't get psyched out by sore legs in the following few days when you'll need easy runs. Agree on BS re quality - esp on an individual level. My FB friend Rachel is a 150-160k/week runner - 2:51 last year at Boston (W45). Does similar race-pace efforts as you. http://runnerrachel.blogspot.com.au/
Great to hear things are going well.
ReplyDeleteYour call but that down hill session you mentioned sounds risky. I would do something like that before a minor race rather than something as important as the Boston Marathon.
Thanks Jon. I understand what you said and it is "risky" but I remember training pretty hard for the Hilo Hawaiian Marathon, which is basically down hill for the first half and it absolutely trashed my quads. I didn't do any specific downhill training for that and I couldn't even muster a short sprint to get sub 3hrs. think I got 3hrs 3 seconds there. Don't want to slow down too much going down the hills in Boston because I'm worried about saving my quads. I want to race there. I think I will do that session at least two weeks out, so I've got time to get over it,and I have been running fast downhills almost everyday so I reckon by the time I run that session I should be strong enough to handle it. I just remembered that it was a session of 1K fast downhills that started my glute problems a few years ago. I remember doing them on a very cold winters day so I'd better wait until a warmer one before trying them. Shit, really not easy getting it right! Mike Trees has a saying that there are only two kinds of runners those that are injured and those who are going to be! That pretty much sums up this running game. You throw the dice every time you try to get better!
ReplyDeleteHi Scott. Man you are humming at the moment. Keep it up. Not sure if you visit Sage Canadays VO2maxProductions YouTube channel already but I find a lot of useful stuff there. Couldn't see anything specific about downhill prep work though. He seems to be a big supporter of the 15k block at MP completed during the second half of your long run or close to. I agree with you, mileage is king and there is no substitute. I'm a long way from 160k/week though. Not sure if I'm overly cautious or just plain lazy. Two long runs a week (Lydiard), a trail run, recovery and one speed 1/2 marathon paced effort works for me or will once I put this together for my next assault.
ReplyDeleteGood to hear you're going well Scott. Re Jon's comment - I think you'll be fine 2 weeks out (run a few undulating courses before then) - but don't get psyched out by sore legs in the following few days when you'll need easy runs.
ReplyDeleteAgree on BS re quality - esp on an individual level. My FB friend Rachel is a 150-160k/week runner - 2:51 last year at Boston (W45). Does similar race-pace efforts as you. http://runnerrachel.blogspot.com.au/